{"id":7724,"date":"2024-11-27T14:43:07","date_gmt":"2024-11-27T13:43:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/saskiagallery.fr\/?p=7724"},"modified":"2025-03-18T10:12:08","modified_gmt":"2025-03-18T09:12:08","slug":"robert-clevier-2024-des-corps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/saskiagallery.fr\/index.php\/2024\/11\/27\/robert-clevier-2024-des-corps\/","title":{"rendered":"Robert CLEVIER &#8211; 2024 &#8211; \u00ab\u00a0Des corps\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"7724\" class=\"elementor elementor-7724\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-418b169 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"418b169\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div 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class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/saskiagallery.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/elementor\/thumbs\/expo-puib4mx1g6jpm1bk7nvcg1zmhz0vdzwl01ku4mezqs.png\" title=\"expo\" alt=\"expo\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-90acad2\" data-id=\"90acad2\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1d53bef animated-slow elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1d53bef\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_animation&quot;:&quot;fadeIn&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Mots de l'artiste<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3cad08a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3cad08a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Robert\u00a0Cl\u00e9vier<\/strong>\u00a0&#8211;\u00a0\u00e0 propos des \u00ab\u00a0corps\u00a0\u00bb, mines de plomb et pastels, 1994-97.\u00a0Entretien avec Nathalie Gruska-Flornoy, le 11 septembre 2024.\u00a0<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>N.G.F. &#8211; Que diriez-vous, aujourd\u2019hui, des \u0153uvres rassembl\u00e9es pour cette nouvelle exposition, o\u00f9 l\u2019on voit en trois ann\u00e9es seulement, se succ\u00e9der des moments tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rents ?\u00a0<\/em><br \/><em>Pouvez-vous en restituer les circonstances &#8211; pourquoi, autrement dit, dessiner ainsi en 1995, et pourquoi ces \u0153uvres graphiques titr\u00e9es \u00ab\u00a0le corps\u00a0\u00bb ?<\/em><\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R.C. &#8211; Le contexte. L\u2019inqui\u00e9tude me portait \u00e0 m\u2019interroger \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s en ces termes : notre civilisation nous accordait-elle encore la possibilit\u00e9 d\u2019\u00eatre nous-m\u00eames, si je puis dire, en compagnie de notre corps, avec celui-ci\u2026 ? O\u00f9, ce touchant, en \u00e9tions-nous ? Le \u00ab\u00a0corps\u00a0\u00bb avait presque disparu des sommets pr\u00e9tendus de l\u2019art et de l\u2019histoire de l\u2019art; l\u00e0 m\u00eame \u00e9tait leur ouvrage, si bien conduit que les expositions pr\u00e9sent\u00e9es comme les plus remarquables &#8211; qu\u2019on se souvienne, par exemple, de celles des modernistes, post-modernistes et expressionnistes abstraits am\u00e9ricains des ann\u00e9es 1940-70,\u00a0Gottlieb, Rothko, Newman, Pollock, Motherwell\u2026 de Sam Francis et des repr\u00e9sentants de l\u2019automatisme\u00a0&#8211; me faisaient l\u2019effet de c\u00e9r\u00e9monies fun\u00e8bres, de rituels d\u2019\u00e9vacuation indolore autant qu\u2019insignifiante et du \u00ab\u00a0corps\u00a0\u00bb et des arts europ\u00e9ens, en conclusion provisoire de leurs mises en pi\u00e8ces.<br \/>Nos pratiques ainsi expurg\u00e9es, n\u2019ayant plus rien \u00e0 montrer \u00e0 propos du r\u00e9el &#8211; la r\u00e9alit\u00e9, premi\u00e8re a avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 fuie, depuis le d\u00e9but du si\u00e8cle\u00a0d\u00e9j\u00e0 ! -, nous restait la t\u00e2che d\u2019examiner tr\u00e8s minutieusement les degr\u00e9s de la condamnation qui nous frappait.\u00a0Cl\u00e9ment Greenberg ne se piquait-il pas d\u2019avoir \u00ab\u00a0remis C\u00e9zanne \u00e0 sa place, pour insuffisance th\u00e9orique\u00a0\u00bb ? Dire quelque chose des\u00a0sensations pures, envelopper notre n\u00e9ant dans des visions hypertrophi\u00e9es suffiraient \u00e0 assurer notre survie ; il n\u2019\u00e9tait que de placer nos pas dans ceux des\u00a0pompiers.\u00a0<br \/>Notre \u00e9poque bruyait de ces vertiges protoplasmiques ; bien s\u00fbr, le personnage principal de cet\u00a0op\u00e9ra\u00a0puritain du rapport sujet-objet \u00e9tait \u00ab\u00a0le corps\u00a0\u00bb. Quelques savants parlaient du \u00ab\u00a0corps de la peinture\u00a0\u00bb ; g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement, les tableaux-images investiraient-ils bient\u00f4t tous les corps possibles ?<br \/>Vous m\u2019interrogez, je tente de nommer l\u2019angoisse, la tristesse et l\u2019incr\u00e9dulit\u00e9 qui ne laissaient pas de me poursuivre; mes travaux me montraient des figures de \u00ab\u00a0sous-ensembles\u00a0\u00bb, des\u00a0composites d\u2019organes, des \u00ab\u00a0corps humains\u00a0\u00bb qui ne\u00a0tenaient, affal\u00e9s mi-debout, qu\u2019en positions m\u00e9dianes dans des \u00e9tendues tout autant alt\u00e9r\u00e9es, combin\u00e9es au terme d\u2019\u00ab\u00a0incorporations\u00a0\u00bb incertaines avec des quasi-objets (ou agents d\u2019incorporation, ou d\u2019incarnation?); les deux consid\u00e9r\u00e9s ensemble faisaient intrigues et proth\u00e8ses. Je tentais d\u2019avancer un pas apr\u00e8s l\u2019autre, de repriser, d\u00e9coudre, laisser.<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>N.G.F. &#8211; Pourquoi ces proth\u00e8ses ?\u00a0<\/em><\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R.C. &#8211; Aujourd\u2019hui, nos mots parlent clair. Je ne savais rien ou presque alors ; j\u2019observais les intrigues tisser, et les esquisses de proth\u00e8ses susciter le quantum de chaos n\u00e9cessaire \u00e0 leur d\u00e9finition. Travailler \u00e9tait, est le lieu o\u00f9\u00a0j\u2019esp\u00e9rais devenir\u00a0moins mensonger, moins erron\u00e9, illusionn\u00e9 ; j\u2019attendais de cet exercice quotidien que l\u00e0 se laisseraient entrevoir d\u2019autres possibles\u2026 au d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 90, je cherchais un \u00ab\u00a0corps\u00a0\u00bb et voyais appara\u00eetre des fant\u00f4mes, puis des fant\u00f4mes hant\u00e9s par une ant\u00e9riorit\u00e9, une sorte de n\u00e9ant avide qui faisait \u00e9clater les formes.\u00a0<br \/>Si j\u2019avais compris la situation de l\u2019art, o\u00f9 nous ne nous trouvions pas, aurais-je dessin\u00e9 ainsi ? Ent\u00eat\u00e9 depuis vingt ans, je ne posais, ou ne remettais visuellement au travail qu\u2019une question : o\u00f9 en suis-je ? Dessiner, c\u2019\u00e9tait examiner toutes les \u00e9cailles tombant de cette question, et en quelque fa\u00e7on remonter jusqu\u2019\u00e0 elle.\u00a0<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>N.G.F. &#8211; C\u2019\u00e9tait \u00ab\u00a0o\u00f9 en suis-je\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb, ou bien \u00ab\u00a0o\u00f9 en est le monde\u00a0\u00bb ?<\/em><\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R.C. &#8211; Ma discipline, d\u2019abord ; c\u2019\u00e9tait au regard, voire sous le regard de celle-ci, de son histoire si longue, et riche et menue, \u00e0 laquelle j\u2019appartenais, que cette interrogation pouvait \u00eatre men\u00e9e ; l\u00e0 \u00e9tait ma famille, qui ne comprenait pas que des artistes ; \u00e0 mes yeux, il y avait bien plus haut que les arts et l\u2019esth\u00e9tique. \u00a0<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>N.G.F. &#8211; Qui est ?<\/em><\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R.C. &#8211; les philosophies qui en particulier, mettaient en rapport l\u2019esth\u00e9tique avec l\u2019\u00e9thique.\u00a0<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>N.G.F. &#8211; Partagiez-vous vos inqui\u00e9tudes avec vos amis ou connaissances ?<\/em><\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R.C. &#8211; Ces \u00e9changes les remuaient avant de les brouiller. Pourtant, en 1992, l\u2019occasion me fut donn\u00e9e de lever cet horizon dont mes confr\u00e8res en nombre chantaient les d\u00e9clinaisons ; Julien Green m\u2019accorda de travailler avec lui \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9dition originale, accompagn\u00e9e par mes estampes, d\u2019un manuscrit in\u00e9dit titr\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0Dionysos\u00a0\u00bb, \u00e9crit en 1933. Ce travail \u00e0 quatre mains vint \u00e0 point pour remettre sur le m\u00e9tier quelques-unes des interrogations mentionn\u00e9es il y a un instant. Transport\u00e9 dans le paysage d\u2019entre les deux guerres, j\u2019eus la possibilit\u00e9 de renouveler la repr\u00e9sentation que je me faisais jusqu\u2019alors des racines europ\u00e9ennes du modernisme am\u00e9ricain. Par ailleurs, je relus Proust et Kafka, Musil et \u00ab\u00a0chemins qui ne m\u00e8nent nulle part\u00a0\u00bb. \u00a0<br \/>Outre un chant flut\u00e9 \u00e0 la gloire de l\u2019anatomie antique, Green proposait une interpr\u00e9tation sombre, fr\u00e9n\u00e9tique, lourde et tristement charnelle du mythe grec, et le Dionysos le plus d\u00e9cevant.<br \/>Deux \u00e9tonnements pr\u00e9sid\u00e8rent \u00e0 mes choix.\u00a0<br \/>Le premier fut le moment choisi par l\u2019auteur pour mettre un terme \u00e0 soixante ans d\u2019oubli, ou d\u2019\u00e9garement de ce texte, et de le publier pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment alors, en 1993. Je voyais la beaut\u00e9 apollinienne se briser sur mes planches avec les derni\u00e8res lucioles de la Renaissance ; si Green choisissait ce moment, \u00e9tait-ce qu\u2019\u00e0 ses yeux notre civilisation, impuissante \u00e0 former une esp\u00e9rance universelle, \u00e9tait condamn\u00e9e \u00e0 produire, devant des populations europ\u00e9ennes affaiblies, le simulacre d\u2019un printemps \u00e9quivoque, pervers ?\u00a0<br \/>Le second touchait \u00e0 l\u2019impuissance des arts \u00e0 \u00e9viter les catastrophes ; le langage de Green, sa po\u00e9tique, de flamboiement en incandescence, soulignait certes cette impuissance, mais c\u2019\u00e9tait pour charger bien plus gravement tous les arts; \u00ab\u00a0Dionysos\u00a0\u00bb parlait de complicit\u00e9 des arts avec les plus d\u00e9l\u00e9t\u00e8res puissances de destruction; le seul printemps qu\u2019on pouvait y rencontrer n\u2019\u00e9tait acceptable que pour autant qu\u2019il promettait d\u2019augmenter le fl\u00e9trissement de la cit\u00e9 qui y avait plac\u00e9 son espoir. En cette fin de si\u00e8cle, qu\u2019en \u00e9tait-il de nous, du dit\u00a0printemps des arts\u00a0&#8211; \u00e9tait-ce \u00e0 \u00ab\u00a0pire que des guerres\u00a0\u00bb que nous devions nous pr\u00e9parer ? \u00a0<br \/>J\u2019ai propos\u00e9 les mines de plomb que vous voyez ; elles ont \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9cus\u00e9es (et rang\u00e9es en cartons depuis 30 ans, suppl\u00e9mentaires si je puis dire) ; le trouble ne me quittait plus ; j\u2019avan\u00e7ais dans un m\u00e9lange de brouillard \u00e9pais et d\u2019intuition esth\u00e9tique \u00e9galement pr\u00e9caire ; j\u2019ai grav\u00e9 non mes \u00e9tudes mais des images qui ne pourraient, en toute circonstance, \u00eatre re\u00e7ues qu\u2019en tant qu\u2019images-op\u00e9rateurs de consentement, perfections, mi-viatiques mi-idoles.<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>N.G.F. &#8211; Au courant de l\u2019ann\u00e9e 1995 et jusqu\u2019\u00e0 fin 1997, votre mani\u00e8re se transforme fortement, par ruptures.<\/em><\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R.C. &#8211; Le verbe \u00ab\u00a0rompre\u00a0\u00bb appartient au modernisme, qui dit \u00ab\u00a0ruptures\u00a0\u00bb pour ennoblir ses vues, les rev\u00eatir d\u2019un manteau de scientificit\u00e9. En viendrons-nous aux mains avec cette id\u00e9ologie avec l\u2019arme m\u00eame qui assure sa prosp\u00e9rit\u00e9 ?\u00a0<br \/>Les coexistences d\u2019objets, par exemple de figures d\u2019espace-temps diff\u00e9rents, et de l\u00e0 de diff\u00e9rences, retenaient toute mon attention. Nous revenons donc au mod\u00e8le grec de la beaut\u00e9, du \u00ab\u00a0corps\u00a0\u00bb fond\u00e9 sur le pr\u00e9l\u00e8vement de parties parfaites de corps imparfaits, et leur assemblage\u00a0a posteriori, toutes diff\u00e9rences et discontinuit\u00e9s masqu\u00e9es. Vers 1995, j\u2019observais ce mod\u00e8le de corps-proth\u00e8se construit par \u00ab\u00a0int\u00e9grations\u00a0\u00bb achever de se glorifier se d\u00e9sint\u00e9grant, montrer, creuser et exciter comme plaies les collages ou \u00ab\u00a0inclusions\u00a0\u00bb que les traditions avaient habilement dissimul\u00e9es.\u00a0 \u00a0<br \/>Il me semble aujourd\u2019hui que les \u00e9tudes que vous exposerez, travaillent d\u2019abord cette question des diff\u00e9rences au regard non d\u2019une id\u00e9e \u00ab\u00a0d\u2019ensemble\u00a0\u00bb, de coh\u00e9rence, mais d\u2019une alt\u00e9rit\u00e9, d\u2019une diff\u00e9rence irr\u00e9ductible. Cette possibilit\u00e9 s\u2019il s\u2019agissait bien de cela, appelait mes esp\u00e9rances.\u00a0 \u00a0<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>N.G.F. &#8211; Enfin, pour titre de cette exposition, vous proposez \u00ab\u00a0habeas corpus ?\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R.C. &#8211; \u2026 pour ne pas perdre de vue\u00a0cet aspect du\u00a0contexte ; j\u2019\u00e9tais n\u00e9 sous droit romain, \u00e0 un moment o\u00f9 le propri\u00e9taire et rentier de moi-m\u00eame comme de mon corps, \u00e9tait l\u2019\u00c9tat ; c\u2019\u00e9tait valoir une chaise, ou un chien aux yeux des propri\u00e9taires du\u00a0fonds\u00a0de cette petite affaire, mes g\u00e9niteurs. Au d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 1990, il ne pouvait \u00e9chapper \u00e0 personne qu\u2019au-del\u00e0 des turpitudes o\u00f9 les puissances publiques se roulaient, c\u2019\u00e9tait l\u2019\u00c9tat lui-m\u00eame qui se vidait de ses derniers volumes liquides, lors que d\u00e9j\u00e0, l\u2019\u00e9volution du droit m\u2019avait accord\u00e9 de succ\u00e9der \u00e0 mes parents quant \u00e0 la possession du\u00a0fonds.\u00a0<br \/>Je dessinais ; en jeu, qu\u2019y avait-il,\u00a0quel objet pour quel sujet ?\u00a0quoi ou qui,\u00a0qui et quoi ?\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0Des corps\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-e51e012 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"e51e012\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-91e1797\" data-id=\"91e1797\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a39492c elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"a39492c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robert CLEVIER &#8211; 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